Also if anyone else is still in the WhatsApp, have a look at the members area, multiple accounts for Lucas Meier, Lina korolenko and Sebastian hatherleigh. Who needs that many different whatsapp accounts unless your running a scam!

I know it’s a scam and I’m in a beta round of testing. I feel there are a lot of bots with very excitibly encouraging messages from users who say they are investing big amounts. And lots of ai profile pictures which is an enormous red flag. I will take any profits from this test and run.

If you google VUBE Pro exchange, all you get is CUBE pro exchange. Wonder if it’s a clone of this official exchange 🤔

The motive of the scam is to gain your trust and eventually blindly follow their advice, which has ended up being to invest in a brand new token on a completely unregulated platform, that they own.

They have issued assurances that the QOC platform is regulated and licensed and THEY sent out this link that they state a company with a similar name is on

https://www.fincen.gov/msb-state-selector

This is just a registry. No form of license or regulation.

It even says in the third paragraph :-
Fraudsters are attempting to steal money by claiming to be an MSB “approved” or “endorsed” by FinCEN. These criminals mislead people by telling them it is safe to send funds to or invest in a business, simply because it is listed on FinCEN’s MSB Registrant Search website. FinCEN does not approve or endorse any business that has registered as an MSB. Any such claim and similar claims are false and may be part of a scam.

To be clear, that is cut and pasted OK.

The platform needs to be MTL approved on a state by state basis to be regulated.

I hadn’t realised until I got involved how widespread it is. It’s the principal of pump and dump or a Ponzi scheme. Maybe there is no such thing but search it up yourself. We are talking multiple WhatsApp groups across Europe, not a handful of people on a single WhatsApp. They state they have 40k participants, similar to the 32k Telegram subscribers they have. So even if we just invested 5k each, that is going to move a medium cap stock price.

The whole idea of the thread was to voice concerns and many people have done that and hopefully we have saved a few people from losing their money.

However, in true British style (and I do agree we should all be heard)this all may be wrong and it’s a great opportunity. Make you own mind up. I’ve been in it from the start and my only caveat would be, don’t put any of your own money onto their platform, unless you are prepared to lose it all. Of course, if you feel this all seems unbalanced, then fill your boots 🙂

I was genuinely surprised when I came across this post. Admittedly, so-called “investment scams” are indeed prevalent across various social media platforms. However, the author’s remarks regarding institutions or market makers “pushing up prices, accumulating positions, and then offloading them” reveal a rather shallow understanding of how financial markets operate — it comes across very much like the view of a novice

With over thirty years of experience in the stock market, I can say with confidence that a true “pump-and-dump” strategy is anything but simple. It’s a carefully orchestrated, multi-stage process

Phase 1: Price Suppression & Accumulation

The first phase is price suppression and accumulation. Institutions typically induce market fear by releasing negative sentiment, publishing discouraging news, or spreading bearish narratives. This pushes prices down, prompting retail investors to sell, allowing institutions to quietly accumulate at lower levels

However, this accumulation doesn’t happen overnight — it often requires significant time to rotate shares and complete positioning. Even after successful accumulation, institutions cannot simply unload large positions for a profit without first entering the second phase: the mark-up

Phase 2: Mark-up (Price Elevation)

This phase depends heavily on sustained capital inflow. By creating optimism — through news, signals, or technical momentum — they encourage retail traders to chase the rise. This price increase is not random; it’s measured and rhythmic, often taking the shape of an S-curve or extended consolidation on the charts.

Phase 3: Distribution (Exit)

Eventually comes the final stage: distribution. At this point, institutions often engineer false breakouts or bullish patterns, such as large bullish candles with low volume, designed to lure in late buyers — a classic bull trap

Contrary to popular belief, institutions rarely dump all at once. Doing so would collapse the price and destroy their profit. Instead, they offload gradually, in small batches, minimising market disruption while offloading risk

And here lies the central question:
Can such a large-scale manipulation truly be pulled off by a handful of people with limited capital?

Unless one is dealing with unregulated or fraudulent stocks — or operating on an off-market platform — this would be extremely difficult to execute in a highly regulated, liquid market like NASDAQ
Even in mid-sized markets, completing such a full cycle of accumulation, elevation, and exit would typically require coordination between multiple institutions and market makers, not just a single actor

I think we’ve got ourselves another couple of ppcp members on the defense here.

£40k per year subscription fee for an ai trading system is also the scam. It’s just bollox. End of!!

Pfit token only available on their own apps (qoc / ndae) not listed on coingeko. I don’t think it will be pump and dump, I think more rug pull.

All the info already given above e.g. ai profile pics, fresh linkdin etc.

Come on!!

Hi All,
I am part of this group currently.

The whole BETA testing has come to an end today. The 1500 capital is to be returned today and the profit from beta trades will belong to the participants to trade with, or withdraw. So the proof of scam or advertising the new PFIT system should become evident after today.